Defy Your Skinny Fat Genetics: Part 2
In my last post, I talked about my friend and client Josh, and his amazing success story. Josh had the worst possible “body type” (skinny, fat and weak) imaginable for achieving the goals of gaining lean muscle, increasing strength and losing body fat.
Yet, against the odds, he achieved all three simultaneously. How did he pull it off? Well, first of all, Josh refused to give up on himself. He was disciplined, motivated and passionate about overcoming the physical limitations that his DNA had so graciously “blessed” him with.
However, all the discipline and motivation in the world won’t do a single thing for you if you don’t have the right nutritional protocol and training program to back you up. That’s where I came in!
So in this post, I’d like to go a little more in depth on what I did to help Josh pull off the impossible. Let’s start with his training protocol:
Training volume- In most cases, alternating phases of high and low volume training would yield excellent and predictable muscle building results. But not with Josh! In fact, every higher volume phase we used resulted in a significant decrease in strength and size for him.
Additionally, joint pain and inflammation was becoming a problem from any volume work. It was becoming crystal clear that his recovery ability was exceptionally poor and that I would need to take this into account when designing his programs.
After months of trial and error, we finally found the balance between training stimulation and ability to recover. The volume may sound incredibly low, but this is what it took for Josh to achieve results:
On upper body days, the optimal training volume was 10-12 sets. If a 13th set was even considered, his results would suffer greatly.
On lower body days, optimal training volume was even less. We found that anything over 8-10 sets would lead to overtraining in a hurry.
Training frequency-Typically, a higher training frequency would better teach skill and stimulate the muscles more regularly. This often leads to better technical form and more muscle growth (especially for beginners). But just like training volume, high frequency just led to overtraining.
We finally discovered that for Josh, the best gains were made when we trained each major movement pattern once every 7 days. In between the 7 day cycle, Josh would hit each muscle group once, indirectly.

If your friends have to carry your 130 lb "skinny fat" carcass out of the gym, chances are, you're training too hard
Training intensity- Most skinny/fat sufferers train too hard. With compromised recovery abilities, Josh (or anyone with this body type) couldn’t even flirt with training to failure. The optimal cycling of intensity turned out the be:
Week one- 65%
Week two- 75%
Week three- 85%
Week four- 95/100% (each phase would alternate percentages)
Week five- OFF
Notice that Josh would only lift limit weights once every ten weeks. This was a crucial component to his training success.
Cardio- To help increase fat burning and decrease the likelihood of fat gaining from a calorie surplus, we experimented with a variety of conditioning techniques. We tried every conceivable variation of intensity levels (high, med and low) and styles (intervals, bursts, HIIT and steady state).
The results of all techniques were — you guessed it — nil. Even worse, all of the higher intensity methods resulted in decreases in muscle and strength gains. The worst part was that despite Josh’s tremendous effort, the rate of fat loss was not altered at all.
The bottom line was simple: any cardio that Josh tried either did nothing or caused a detrimental training effect.
Exercise selection- This finding will be obvious to most of you. Josh needed to put the majority of his efforts into the big compound movements.
There was one interesting discovery however. Josh did improve his hypertrophy response by adding a movement (after the main exercise was completed) that loaded the target muscle group in the stretch position.

Notice how the quadricep on her rear leg is under load while in the stretch position. This is one of many exercises that creates this effect.
For example, after squatting, doing one set of a rear foot elevated split squat (this movement stretches the quadriceps while under loading) actually increased hypertrophy. Just one high rep set (12-20) was necessary and recommended.
I hypothesize that this positive effect came from stretching the facia, which allowed the muscle more room to grow. For those of you who don’t know, the facia is a sheath of connective tissue surrounding your muscles.
Although the above list is far from exhaustive, these alterations were the most powerful training modifications that led to Josh’s success.
Now let’s move on to the nutritional aspect. Remember that Josh wanted to lose fat and gain muscle. We initially had decided to focus our efforts on one goal at a time. Here are our findings:
Muscle building- Since building muscle requires a calorie surplus, I prescribed an appropriate nutritional plan for Josh. Unfortunately, regardless of food quality or timing, Josh gained fat from any type of surplus.
Fat loss- For fat burning to occur, a caloric deficit is necessary. We experimented with a variety of dietary techniques including low carb, high protein, balanced calorie controlled, meal timing, etc. and every blend of these methods. Every possible fat loss technique only resulted in muscle loss and decreases in energy and strength.
The Diet- Since neither extreme worked, we decided to blend the two together. On training days, Josh would follow a muscle building meal plan and on off training days, Josh would follow a fat loss meal plan.

This is an after pic of Josh. A local photographer who witnessed his transformation was so impressed, he shot some pics for free. Josh has never released a before pic.
Fortunately, this new meal plan schedule worked wonders for Josh. Now, for the first time, he was able to build muscle and burn fat simultaneously.
Some of these techniques are specific to the genetically cursed, skinny/fat/weak body type. If you fall into this category, these techniques will work amazingly well for you.
That being said, there are powerful lessons to be learned here for all of us. Perhaps, the most important lesson is that everyone’s body is different. Some people get great results just by walking into a gym; others have to battle constantly to get what they want in the gym.
However, if you are determined to succeed, and you have a coach at the helm with the knowledge and the willingness to experiment until YOUR perfect training and nutritional approach is discovered, you will be absolutely shocked by the results you can achieve.
So those of you who are genetically “cursed”, I encourage you to stare down those bad genetics and show them who is really in charge of your body: YOU!
Dedicated to your success,
John Alvino
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Comments on Defy Your Skinny Fat Genetics: Part 2
Great advice there John, really enjoyed the read.
However, how you would you teach someone to understand what the right protocol is for him/her? I mean, what was the fundamental basis you started upon and how long did you wait to actually understand how and what was causing the problem?
For instance, I’m following Jason’s Muscle Gaining Secrets at the moment (low volume, full body workouts 3x a week) and I am satisfied with the results I’m getting, but after reading this post I wonder that perhaps I should be adapting or at least experimenting some tweaks to the program in some way to actually understand what really is right for me.
Your advice is spot on, but I’m kind of lost on how to implement it into my routine.
Thanks,
Alex
Nice post John!
I am interested in the diet that Josh followed…
still no before-after pic though…………….let us see the wonder……….nice post indeed!
@alex: Hey Alex, the process of discovering what works best for you is really trial and error. An experienced coach will constantly process your results every step of the way and make adjustments accordingly. If you are doing this solo, use programs that are tried and true and monitor your own results. You will start to learn how you respond to volume, loading, frequency, etc.
I hope this helps you out.
@Rajat Desikan: Hey Rajat, on training days, his calories were 25% greater than what he ate on none training days. Most of these additional calories were ingested around the workouts.
@michael mellner: Hi Michael, I only have after pics. Never got a before pic of Josh. If you want to see it, I can post it on my facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/johnnyalvino
Hi john,
Thanks for the second half of this. Really excellent stuff. Did you ever play around with some sort of intermittent fasting approach with Josh? Obviously it is the current flavour of the month, but I’ve been eating like this for a couple of years (playing around with the different lengths of feeding/fasting etc).
Trial and error can be a long, hard road can’t it? Good work on finding what worked here and well done to your cline twho had the sort of drive that a few more people could use.
Nick
@nick: You’re welcome, Nick. Intermittent fasting would have caused his muscles to evaporate. I do recommend it for some, but for a dude with no muscle mass? No way
@John Alvino:
Hey John, I loved your post. I can really relate to Josh’s body type. Glad to hear he’s finally getting some gains, I’d love to see the gym exercises you prescribed to him and possibly the diet he followed.
I love your posts, they’re very useful. Keep doing what your doing big man.
Luke.
Perth, Australia.
@luke kellett: Hey Luke, glad you love the blog. I’ll post more details about this type of program in future posts. Thanks for sharing your opinions with us
Hey John, great post. Would this type of diet be beneficial to women as well. Similar goals- lose fat, build some lean muscle, get stronger, etc. Thanks!
Sorry if this is a dumb question but does the training volume include warm up sets?
@Gina: Yes, this diet is not gender specific
@Tony: Hey Tony, the total volume of sets does not include warm up sets.
Awesome insights John! I will be putting all of them into practice. I’m pretty much your standard ectomorph. I gained 30lbs through hard training, but as I’ve mentioned to you the training too hard/failure got to me and caused some injuries. Then I ended up becoming skinny/fat, but have since gotten pretty lean.
Last spring I was 170lbs at 11% BF, not huge but heading in the right direction. I’m 5’11″
After the injuries flared up again I dropped to about 160lbs and then started experimenting with the Warrior Diet.
Fasting will definitely eat up the ectomorph’s muscle. I recently did a 7 day juice fast to heal up some tendons/hamstrings and give my body a break. I felt great and had a TON of energy the whole time. However, I lost 10lbs in one week and my pants were falling off. haha.. After the fast I was down to 138lbs with 6%
It definitely helped with healing though. I should mention I got some accupuncture and massage as well as doing meditation and deep breathing to help with that.
So, now I want to gain my mass back and get my weight back up. As far as diet I’ve been eating six meals a day on my training days and loading up on starchy carbs. Then I do the Warrior Diet protocol on my off days. I do however drink 40 oz of veggie/fruit juice, miso soup and an orange and banana during the undereating phase. Then at night I eat a salad, big piece of fish/meat, maybe a small amount of carbs and a 1/4 cup of mixed nuts and seeds.
Now, I’ve got to get my training dialed in! Hope the comment wasn’t too long! I’ll keep you posted on my progress. Thanks for all you do.
Oh yeah, definitely make sure to post Josh’s after pics on FB if he’s cool with it! Congrats to him on such amazing improvements in strength.
@Brandon Cook: Hey Brandon, definitely keep us posted on your progress!
@Brandon Cook: I just put an after pic of Josh in the post above.Check it.
Wow this describes me to a T I lose all my mass on a fat loss diets with low carbs and get fat easily on muscle growth diets with too many carbs, now I cycle 5 low 2 high and bingo it works for me. Now with this approach If I put the effort in I can get up to 200lbs + with abs, shame it took me 25 years to work it all out!
Good research, any chance of a rep range /example workout. I agree that did best training one muscle group directly a week and compound tend to give be better results. The eating regime is one I have also tried before with some success.Let me get this straight Josh lost the Body Fat as a result of Resistance training and modulating his eating plan to a lower calorie diet on off days.
Any chance of a breakdown of his training scehdule? Thanks John.